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Old Feb 14, 2010, 09:58 PM   #1
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Survivor: Battle of the Decade. Round Four.

What IS this?

Welcome to Round Four of Survivor: Battle of the Decade!



Begins: 11pm, 14th February 2010
Ends: 11pm, 16th February 2010

Ha…haha…hahahahahaha…

Eviction Votes

World of Warcraft – 3
Fallout 3 – 2
Persona 4 -1

Immunity Votes

World of Warcraft – 3
Fallout 3 -1

...Ahem. Sorry about that. I don’t know what came over me. Well, actually, it was that I cannot remember a Condition, especially such a simply one, so completely shaping the outcome of a Round before.

It all started when Beastly – who upon realising his mistake uttered the word “Shit” – accidentally italicized rather than underlined his vote, which negated his Eviction vote for World of Warcraft. Meanwhile, if the Award Winning, Quote Giving, Most Contradictory Player (Ever) Dedrus - who upon realising his mistake uttered "Oh balls" - had remembered to bold his Immunity vote, Fallout 3 would only have needed its Hero BZero - "Fuck" - to protect it and its arch nemesis, World of Warcraft would have been out the door. But instead...

Odin Sphere
Tales of Symphonia
Fallout 3

Which means it is time for a third successive look at

The Predictions

Which game will be the first WRPG evicted?

A few people predicted that one correctly, and so the table now looks like this...

Aether - 1
BZero - 1
Lord DB - 1
Mig - 1
Not Miko - 2
Roger - 2
Sioux - 1

I must confess that at this point I am rooting for Not Miko to win, just because it would be funny for someone apparently not even playing to out predict those that are

As for the last Question, I asked "If you were creating your own RPG, what would it be called?" Some of you gave me more detail than that, but hold those thoughts for later Questions (all of which will be very easy for those of you that have actually made them ).

However, perhaps Aether could be forgiven for not answering any more 'Create Your Own RPG' queries, as his title of Death Of Fallout has achieved everything it set out to do within a day or so of being revealed. Similarly, we now have first hand experience of one possible ending in Mig’s World of Warcraft versus Fallout 3: Requiem.

Meanwhile, Sioux will be working on a game entitled Vision Quest and Roger will be crafting The Ruptured Silhouette "or something just as unimaginative", perhaps making use of the list of RPG clichés posted earlier in the Round.

With all that to look forward to, its time for me to develop a new

Question of the Round

What defines a good RPG for you?

A Question inspired by a debate towards the end of the last Round. As for the

Miscellaneous Business

- Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

- Sorry.

With that out of my system, here is your list;

Chrono Trigger DS
Dragon Age: Origins
Eternal Sonata
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy XII
Golden Sun
Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Kingdom Hearts 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Lost Odyssey
Mass Effect
Persona 4
Star Ocean: Til the End of Time
Tales of Vesperia
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth
World of Warcraft

And as was written in the ancient scrolls of years gone by, "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life!"
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Old Feb 14, 2010, 10:21 PM   #2
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Fallout 3 =(

My hero powers =(

Eviction: World of Warcraft

QotR: Too tired, maybe I'll answer this when I come back for my immunity vote.
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Old Feb 14, 2010, 10:28 PM   #3
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Eviction: World of Warcraft

THIS BANDWAGON HAS COOKIES.
That is all.

QotR: A good RPG? *ahem*
Emotionally-charged character backgrounds that evolve over a complicated storyline are a MUST-have for a perfect RPG, but alas, very rarely achieved. Graphics aren't a huge problem, but of course, beautifully-animated, seamlessly-integrated ambience that adorns the lushious landscapes is always a turn-on.. it's like, the story is the body, and the graphics are the boobs. And the music is the whipped-cream on top.. and the 'Final Fantasy' title is the cherry on top! ;D

No condition of the round this time.. good, I got a feelin' I'ma be trippin' on them in the future!
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Old Feb 14, 2010, 10:39 PM   #4
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Consider yourself castrated, BZero.

Immunity: World of Warcraft.
Eviction: Persona 4.


QotR: By thinking of the answer to this question, I rediscovered why FFX shouldn't be on the Survivor shortlist. A good RPG needs a great cast that you generate an genuine emotional connection with; everything else falls into place after that. The Squeenix lot got it right until we hit the PS2. Who honestly fell in love with anyone from X? It might just be me possessing the empathy of a doughnut, but that was one weak set of characters.
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Old Feb 14, 2010, 11:14 PM   #5
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Eviction: World of Warcraft

QotR: A good RPG is completely immersive - gameplay, storytelling, graphics.. it's all got to feel authentic. But the best RPGs are those which stand the test of time.
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Old Feb 15, 2010, 02:55 AM   #6
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Exclamation?

Eviction: Persona 4 Get the hell out of here you eclectic bastard!
Immunity: World of Warcraft For Khaaaz Modaaan!

Exclamations!

QotR: Hrm. Copy Pasta plus winging it.

What defines a good RPG for me? Well, for me an RPG should have a lengthy dramatic storyline with vibrant well written characters with a viable history one can sink their teeth into that drives events in the story in someway. It may not need all of these at times considering the many types of RPGs out there but, this is just a list of things that are just good to at least try for whether these things are brought or not to the table in the way I mention is just up to the situation and the type of RPG.

The story needs some decent bulk so as to keep the player interested but not so much that it overwhelms even the most stalwart of power levelers, game challengers, and completionists.

The Characters should be well written to the point you immediately find one you can identify with or at least like for some reason and on his or her character alone you'd be willing to see the game to the end with them.

The history has to have some deeper impact on the plot or at least the characters and their development in some capacity. And not some scant mention of something in a text some character reads that leads them on in the adventure for some ancient this or that. It has to be a deep connection with the characters or key points in the plot line later or even before that influence the story in some way that shapes the world around the characters.

The animation, modeling, lighting, texturing, and 3D effects within the game don't have to be mind blowing per se but, it would help especially if it can hide a shoddy side of the game that would normally be glaringly obvious without the shines to look at.

The key being in the end it has to take hold of you and really make you feel like you want to be in this world that is front of you. It has to be, like the Englishmen in the striped trousers above put it, immersive.
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Old Feb 15, 2010, 06:23 AM   #7
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F**k your bandwagon Dedrus, mine has chocolate goodness.

Eviction: Persona 4

QotR: For me there is three things a good RPG needs.

1) A very detailed and in depth storyline. I hate it when games are "pretty" and just use the story to go from one pretty place to another. A story should be gripping and make you not want to stop playing.

2) Great Character development. I think I could give a stick figure more character development than some of the RPG characters they churn out nowadays. Oh wow, one black guy in the entire game? I bet he's a gangsta rapper.

3) Awesome musical score. If the music can't capture and blend the scene, script, and story together then it's not doing it's job. Getting shivers when I hear a crescendo into a new area or a revelation in the plot is what I live for.
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Old Feb 16, 2010, 09:32 AM   #8
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Double posting because the rules demand it.

Immunity: World Of Warcraft

My duty is done for another round.
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Old Feb 16, 2010, 04:03 PM   #9
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WoW has three immunity votes. If Mig uses his hero powers, and Dedrus and I just do this...

Immunity: Final Fantasy IX

...we'll get WoW out of here.
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Old Feb 16, 2010, 09:58 PM   #10
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