Video Game Music Role Playing Games (RPGs) Final Fantasy Final Fantasy Final Fantasy Forums Contact UFF Final Fantasy and RPG Fan Twitter News Feed RSS Final Fantasy News Feed Final Fantasy Final Fantasy Final Fantasy Forums UFFSite Staff Frequently Asked Questions Final Fantasy I Final Fantasy II Final Fantasy III Final Fantasy IV Final Fantasy V Final Fantasy VI Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VIII Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy X Final Fantasy X-2 Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XII

FF13 Graphics Changes in Action

AP | August 2, 2009

Some of the graphical changes made by Square Enix to later builds of Final Fantasy XIII are becoming clear when released screenshots are studied and compared by fans.

Two released screenshots are almost identical but are from different builds, giving fans a look at changes made to the game engine. The question on the lips of many fans will be why these changes have been made.

The first screenshot here was released by Square Enix in August 2008, before Advent Children Complete shipped. This screenshot is from the older build of the game.



Before moving on to the next screen, make note of the floor textures, rocky sea and the hair of the characters.

The next image is a screen from the video featured on the exclusive Final Fantasy XIII footage found on the Western Advent Children Complete Disc - and a later build of the game than the screenshot above.



Take note again of the changes in the floor texture - in this newer build of the game it is a slightly more simple design. The sea is considerably less choppy and the hair of the characters is quite different - possibly rendered in a different way.

More subtle changes in the images include the textures of Lightning's clothes and her shoulders are considerably less rounded in the later build. The game also appears to have added depth of field effects, throwing the Snow and Vanille in the background out of focus.

Us at UFFSite? We believe that the early shots were likely doctored, improved or running on the Crystal Tools engine on PC - we're likely now just seeing true screenshots of the game, which still look amazing.

The real question is, which one looks better? Let us know in the comments box, on our forums or Tweet at us on our Twitter!

Be sure to sign up to our RSS Feed or Follow us on Twitter for all the latest FF news!


Comments
  1. tfykmBPEoBi
    Princess | May 8, 2012

    Hi everyone. Hope you have enjyeod the hols. Courtney won't be at training on Friday but we will be there for the game on Sat. We are heading off to the snow today. YIPPEE!!!! See you in a weeks time.

  2. Bielizna Damska
    Bielizna Damska | December 20, 2011

    Hi there! This is kind of off topic but I need some advice from an established blog. Is it tough to set up your own blog? I'm not very techincal but I can figure things out pretty quick. I'm thinking about setting up my own but I'm not sure where to start. Do you have any tips or suggestions? With thanks

  3. Untitled
    Anonymous | March 28, 2010

    Now the game sucks because och suckbox three shitty.

    I hate fan boys. Go and sleep shitbox three shitty.

  4. Untitled
    Anonymous | March 9, 2010

    lol wow u guys are really sad, the ps3 has better graphics so what? same game, so grow up!

  5. Untitled
    Anonymous | December 7, 2009

    SQUARE is OTAKU maker !
    Feeling so bad...

  6. Jap vs US or PS3 vs Xbox360 render ?!
    Athrun | September 1, 2009

    I really hope it is a PS3 vs Xbox360, I don't mind xbox360 having this shitty render if PS3 version is gonna look the same as the 1st screenshot. I've played many PS3 games like MGS 4, heck even Genji looks better than the 2nd screenshot. Square-Enix >_< .... T_T doshte ?!

  7. There was no downgrade
    Anonymous | August 31, 2009

    http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxiii---no--downgrade-/883918#message
    I know this will probably go ignored in favor of further fanboy retardation. Grow up , retards!

  8. Fanboys are retards, not gamers
    deathkidx | August 31, 2009

    The comments in this section prove it. You people make me ashamed to own a PS3.

  9. ff
    Fk u M$ | August 31, 2009

    I can't believe how much worse it looks, just because M$ needed it on there shitty console. I guarantee you it would still look like it did if M$ didn't fuckin live. Retards ruin everything!

  10. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 15, 2009

    Not really - it's true that PS3 games could potentially be bigger (i.e. 100gb means more maps, more screens, more fmv's, more sound etc) but the xbox can process more data per second than the PS3. Think you need to define "better" a bit more accurately...

  11. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 13, 2009

    dvd disc which xbox uses can only hold up to 15gb of data n blue ray can hold up to 100gb you do the maths more data can be held on disc so games should better there is you explination

  12. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 13, 2009

    The trouble a dvd disc which the xbox runs on can only hold up to 15gb of data n a blue ray disc which ps3 can hold up to 100gb check this info out n you will see

  13. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 13, 2009

    ?
    ?
    ?
    ?

    /
    ?
    ?
    ?

  14. LOL
    poofaceman | August 10, 2009

    LOL YOUR XBOX SUCKS
    AND YOUR PLAYSTATION SUCKS LOL....

    Seriously, go outside and find something better to do, you're getting yourself worked up over stupid consoles.

    So what? The Xbox 360 is on the playing level as a PS3 ... Don't need to cry over it.

  15. Untitled
    HERP DERP | August 7, 2009

    IM A FANBOY AND IM GONNA SAY ITS CUZ OF XBAX 3SHITTY CAUSE ITS 3SHITTYS FAULT THIS ARICLE IS WRONG AND MISINFORMED HERP DERP DERP

  16. James
    James | August 7, 2009

    The only way fanboys will stop this bitter arguing is if Square decide to say this:

    "On behalf of the entire Square Enix team we are proud to announce that FF13 will stand true to its name of being a multi platform game we we say that an Amiga port of the game will be hitting shelves simultaneously with the Xbox and PS3 versions."
    Imagine FF13 at 10 (if that) FPS with no anti aliasing, no particle psychics, no light rendering, no oil on the copious amount of Japanese breast that I'm sure will be abundant in the game. Now imagine it on xbox...not that bad is it.

    Lighten up fellas

  17. Graphical downgrade debunked.
    Anonymous | August 6, 2009

    Everyone might want to read this here:

    http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxiii---no--downgrade-/883918#message

    There goes this theory of graphics being debunked.

  18. wtf
    lolol | August 5, 2009

    ok ps3 is the best, xbox fanboys can go and have a cry.

  19. again who cares
    who cares | August 5, 2009

    Do you virgins always have to argue over which game console is better?

  20. old
    jimtacticz | August 5, 2009

    this article is actually wrong because the "older shots" are the newest ones they are comparing it with the "new shots" which are from Jump Festa 2008 so there is no downgrade they just switched the pictures around saying one is old when its the new one

  21. Untitled
    Shitbox3shitty | August 5, 2009

    Thank you Microsoft! You paid to downgrade a game that was going to be "great!" Now it's only going to be "good."

    Hell naw I aint buying it for my PS3 when I know the graphics have been downgraded.

  22. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    the after pic is from tgs last year and the before pic is a recent one

  23. Untitled
    sanctimonious | August 4, 2009

    1st pic: Before xbax version announced

    2nd pic: After xbax version announced..

  24. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    I'm glad there is a 360 version in the works so the PS3 fanboys can have a nice scapegoat when the game doesn't hit the target renders.

  25. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    because of xbox360 version, DVD

  26. Untitled
    Truth | August 4, 2009

    I'm pretty sure the "old" images are target renders, similar to the CGI KillZone 2 Trailer.

    You're not too smart are you?

  27. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    fuck offff mann

  28. Microshit
    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    i blame Microshit

  29. Untitled
    Fuck Yu | August 4, 2009

    Fanboys are fucking idiots. That is all.

  30. Heh
    mais | August 4, 2009

    clearly it's been "nerfed" down....

    the reason? who knows...

    Would graphics have been lowered if it was only on PS3?

    probably not..

  31. ff13
    goodbye | August 4, 2009

    same here

  32. Untitled
    360strikesAgain | August 3, 2009

    Damn retarded 360. Too bad Microshaft dumped that large money bag on Square to hold back the PS3 version release and make both titles equal. Now the PS3 version will have to be dumbed down to match the dated tech in the xbox 360. At least Versus 13 is untouched.

  33. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    "FACT #5: For any "amazing visuals" PS3 game you post, I can post an "amazing visuals" 360 game, and vice versa."

    3 words: Metal. Gear. Solid.

  34. Remember...
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    ...when gameplay was all that mattered? Seriously, if you guys care this much about graphics then I'm terrified to hear your thoughts about old N64 games.

    Actually, let's do that. IN MY OPINION ZELDA OCARINA OF TIME LOOKED FANTASTIC BEFORE IT WAS DOWNGRADED FOR USE ON THE N64 ZOMGROFL!

  35. ps2
    Liftius | August 3, 2009

    Remember when ps2 was the most popular system of the generation, and all of its games looked like **** compared to Xbox and Gamecube's best games? Yeah. Good times.

  36. oh shit!
    me | August 3, 2009

    to cyber akuma you lame ass fuck! yes the ps3 versions of multiplatform games are at a lower resolution because they are multiplatform games meaning the company would not want to make a game look better on the ps3 because ms and all the 360 fanboys will be crying that thier 360 cant handle the games the ps3 can.ps3 owners dont complain when they get shitty ports at least i dont because i know it is the 360 fault for making the original build on a slower easier to program already maxed out console (360) i have nothing to fear like 360 owners because i know there will be alot of good awsome games graphic wise gameplay wise and story for my ps3. and know i will not get another halo game intended for 8 yr olds.

  37. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    lol you bitch like it matters. sony and ms are full of shit, so fuck em both

  38. Untitled
    TheTruth | August 3, 2009

    "There ARE indeed 360 titles that run at a native 1080p."

    Just a few, PS3 has many times more.

    "there are PS3 games that don't even run at 720p but are upscaled to it."

    Same goes to 360 (even some exclusives)

    Halo 3 = 1152x640
    Halo 3: ODST = 1152x640
    Star Ocean 4 = 882x496
    Ninja Gaiden 2 = 1120x585
    Project Gotham Racing 3 = 1024x600
    Don King Prizefighter = 1024x630
    Perfect Dark Zero = 1152x640

    and so on...

  39. JustSuckIt
    gulp | August 3, 2009

    "I'll bet you that every exclusive that Sony has had out can run those same kind of graphics (or even better) on the 360 in less development time & money. Seriously, they could."

    What a BS! For example GT5/P runs at 1080p@60fps 16 cars per track, Forza 2/3 runs at 720p@60fps 8 cars per track (interior 720p@30fps). There's no way 360 could handle the GT5 / GT5P at the same level of detail and resolution as PS3 or Forza games would have 1080p and 16 cars also. 360 couldn't even handle Killzone 2's deferred rendering and the 350 light sources which Killzone 2 uses per scene.

  40. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    The first pic is obviously from a bullshot, from a PC workstation. Crystal tools is actually a PC engine, and the Xbox 360 is very similar to PC. The better looking version is probably going to be on 360.

  41. Untitled
    Cyber Akuma | August 3, 2009

    "when Square was developing the game they started with the PS3 build. they were aiming for 60fps, that was the build that was in most of the trailers in the past. then square announced they were going multiplatform with XBOX360 they also mentioned in some of their interviews that they had to aim lower for 30fps because blah blah blah 360 suchs blah blah blah"

    Talk is cheap

    Post a link to prove it, otherwise this is gibberish fanboy whining.

  42. Untitled
    Cyber Akuma | August 3, 2009

    "To the guy that said that there are more 360 games that run at 1080p, that's because they are upscaled. No 360 game runs naturally at 1080p"

    WRONG

    1. There ARE indeed 360 titles that run at a native 1080p.

    2. The majority of PS3 titles run at a LOWER RESOLUTION OR FRAMERATE than the 360 version, there are PS3 games that don't even run at 720p but are upscaled to it.

    A lot of this is crappy coding though.

    There is no damn game that the 360 can do that the PS3 cannot at the same grahical level, and there is no damn game that the PS3 can do that the 360 cannot at the same graphical level. Both have some parts that are stronger than the other and weaker agains the other, but overal the differences are too small to matter for anybody that can actually CODE.

    And therein lies the problem, the PS3 is too damn complex to code for, thats why the majority of 360 multiplats look better, despite the fact that both consoles can match each other in power, the 360 was designed to be very easy to code for.

    Its funny how all the PS3 fanboys here are bawwwing about "graphics graphics graphics" when the Ps2 was by FAR weaker than the GameCube and Xbox1 last gen, yet it killed them because it had better games, proving graphics don't matter, yet here we are trying to examine screenshots under a microscope and making baseless accusations about the console we don't care for while knowing NOTHING about how they work.

  43. Look it up
    Scarecrowrhps | August 3, 2009

    when Square was developing the game they started with the PS3 build. they were aiming for 60fps, that was the build that was in most of the trailers in the past. then square announced they were going multiplatform with XBOX360 they also mentioned in some of their interviews that they had to aim lower for 30fps because of the fact that XBOX360 could not handle the original 60fps build. In fact, when they did create a 30fps build with almost identical visuals as the 60fps build square noted that the game ran choppy and said they might have had to tune the visuals to where they would not run choppy on the 360. and turns out most likely that's what they came out for the 30fps build. both for 360 and PS3

  44. others facts
    qs | August 3, 2009

    Anonymous knows that but can't admit it. PS3 is more complex yes it is, but the fact is here

    Killzone 2 is better than any consoles games on the technic level. It's an PS3 exclusivity : studios who know how to use PS3 can do that type of game. Uncharted 2 is set to take the throne. Same talks here.

    Just give me a name of a game that is equal technically to K2.

  45. i feel sorry if you bought a 360

    to all the lame xbots do you not realize why first party titles for the ps3 are so good looking because they are not multiplatform they can use all of the ps3 and make them look so good you get seizures from playing a ps3 game just look at wipeout it was too realistic that they had too tone down the graphics because you people were getting seizures. the multi games look good on 360 only and only because you are playing on a standard tv or it does not have a hdmi output to make it better if you play it on a hd tv with hdmi you will be able to see all the flaws of the games graphics. so just wait for ff13 versus and you will see that it looks alot better then ff13 because it is exclusive.

  46. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    To the guy that said that there are more 360 games that run at 1080p, that's because they are upscaled. No 360 game runs naturally at 1080p. Also, I highly doubt that a game like Uncharted 2 or God of War 3 could be done on the 360. Those teaser trailers from Uncharted 2 that we saw with the train and the dagger? Those were made with the in-game engine! All of the cutscenes use the in-game engine. The 360 could not do that.

  47. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    "5% of multiplats that run & look better on the PS3," I mean. Sorry for the error.

  48. Demo you dipshits.
    austin | August 3, 2009

    The second picture is from the demo which was horribly mutilated to fit on the disk. The final version has final builds and updated battle system. This was already announced awhile ago. dismissed.

  49. Untitled
    Decoy | August 3, 2009

    It could be a change from Full CG to using in Game Engine as the game was actually built. Having the demo you can clearly see the difference between their CG and in game graphics at that point of development.

  50. I love this.
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    LOL. I love this. I seriously love it. Seriously, It's been going on nearly 33 months since the PS3's been out, & yet it continues to get outperformed by the 360 in the multiplatform category.

    There's about 85% of multiplats that run & look better on the 360! Fact. There's only like what, 5% of multiplats that run & look better on the 360 (while the last 10% turns out to be exactly equal to each other)? Pish posh, especially when it takes an incredible amount of time & money JUST to get the PS3 versions of games to run & look the EXACT same as the 360 versions. Plus I'll bet you that every exclusive that Sony has had out can run those same kind of graphics (or even better) on the 360 in less development time & money. Seriously, they could. If you don't think so, then you're a damn fool.

    Even when games are being developed for PS3 first, or when games are being ported from the PS3, they'll STILL come out running & looking better on the 360, & FFXIII will probably be no exception.

    Plus face it, why would ANYONE buy a PS3 over the X-Box 360 anyway? Only for exclusives &/or Blu-Ray, which is all that console is ever good for. The 360 is the better gaming machine in almost every aspect, as it has the best exclusives, best PC/360 conversions, larger exclusive IP's, better graphics, & better online gaming. Plus the 360 will CONTINUE to get better multiplats for the rest of this gen.

    So suck it up & accept the fact that the PS3 is an inferior gaming console, & that Sony has fed you a bunch of crap about "The full power of the Cell," "Untapped power," & all of that other gibberish. Good day.

  51. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    You really do realize, PS3 fanboys, that all you're doing is making yourselves look absolutely RIDICULOUS. This is hands down the funniest thread I've read all morning.

  52. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    alexM........... 360 have more 1080p games than PS3. Fanboys say whatever they want cuz they feel bad that the crappy PS3 dont have a chance on the 360.

  53. Untitled
    @villers | August 3, 2009

    face it its had a downgrade

  54. Untitled
    @villiers | August 3, 2009

    they posted a new one with even newer articles, check that dumbass

  55. at alexm
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    AHAHAHAHA LMFAO FAGGOT FANBOY. lmao "OH NOES MUH GAY FINAL FELLATIO GAME IZZZNTT PS3 XCLOOZIV ANYMOAR" oh and by the way, suck box 360? that's gotta be the worst insult for the xbox i've ever heard.

  56. @Warben
    vx | August 3, 2009

    who the fuck said that we gona buy this if it turn out to be crap, i play FF since 1997 however even though i grow up with FF FF10-2 i didnt touch that crap nor FF12 and the shitty FF11 play it cuz my friends 6month then throw the shitty game, FF13 we all have hope for it but looking at SE recent shitty games and the game going multi now with these graphics FF13 looks like another LR/SO4 copy paste. addtionaly the story looks weak in term of characters (such as ff12) my only hope now is FFv13

  57. Untitled
    Villiers | August 3, 2009

    This article needs to be REMOVED.

    Your comparing images from the Jump Festa 2008 trailer, the graphics are now on par with the newer older better shot

  58. FF 13
    Warben | August 3, 2009

    i am a fan of all final fantasy titles. lets be honest pretty much all of us would buy it even if they said it was coming out on the master system. so stop bitching. apart from the few who sound sensible on here are there any people with experience in the industry and not just playing them? probably not, so like the rest of us, shut up and just wait

  59. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    Look people this whole piucture business is scaremongering rubbish. Anyone who actually looks up the proper dates of when these photos were released will see this. I mean why would SE release screen shots that make it look crapper than it did before?

  60. FF13 looked great when it was PS3 exclusive
    alexM | August 3, 2009

    Now it looks crap for suck box 360 version

    KZ2 looks 50 times better than all suck box games. FF13 looked good initially too now the game is destroyed for the suck box 360

  61. CRAP BOX 360 just destroyed the game
    alexM | August 3, 2009

    FF13 has been downgraded for SUCK BOX 360
    that suck box 360 aka dvd heater has no game at 1080p. Not only games look bad on suck box all games are downgraded for that suck box 360

    I am hearing that FF13 will be 12 DVDs on suck box 360. shame on SE for downgrading the game for crap box 360

  62. hmmmmm
    SM1 | August 3, 2009

    Viva 360 ! looool
    i hope this Pics from the 360 version!

  63. AMEN
    AMEN | August 3, 2009

    amen to the last statement "Suck Anus ", those pps love war they love to ruin everything beautiful in this world ,,fucking douche bags

  64. Sperm
    Suck Anus | August 3, 2009

    The guy who wrote this is a fanboy and he likes tio suck dicks and tro swallow his father's sperm, he also loves to put his father's dick in his small anus.

    All fanboys must die

    All USA people must die they create war even in games , they create hate even between videogame systems, DIE yankees motherfuckers son of a bitches sperm suckers!

  65. MS created fanboys
    edito | August 3, 2009

    Nintendo and sony can coexist but MS and Sony just cant coexist because MS want to be what sony is they want everthing others done right (PS1 e PS2) thats why i have to agree that MS ruined gaming industry remember when only PS and nintendo existed? glorious days... its sad cause the time has gone and will never be the same again...

  66. bullshit my azz
    vx | August 3, 2009

    the 1st pic is not a "bullshot" or a pre-render target it is the game ruining hence there is a subtitle to. however um guessing that after MS FF13 announcement the stupid SE had to downgraded the game so it can fit the shitty DVD9 and run the same on both Xbox and the PS3. btw there is nothing spicatl with the 1st pic no WOW to it ,its not shiny and polish it just look like a high quality before going multifuck.

  67. Untitled
    The Observer | August 3, 2009

    If you feel the need to bash another console... don't.

    No matter how smart you think your post is you just come out looking like a complete idiot.

  68. idiots
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    lolwut, its pretty obvious the first was a bullshot given that the game was not being played live when that trailer/screen was played. Some of the textures may have changed since, but it's very unlikely the game's graphics have actually taken a hit

  69. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    The first pic does look like it has a higher polygon count compared to the second, but the fade effect is pretty well done in the second one. I liked that they simplified the upper part of the background as it did look a bit messy initially, but I preferred the water in the background from the first. As for the roundness of the characters, if u look at lightnings right shoulder in the 2nd pic, u can see it has lost alot of shape compared to the first. I can only guess that both are still on the workengine on the pc, but the 2nd one has probably been re-rendered and tweaked to fit on the consoles. Im guessing its still not a final build and there will still be work to bring the rendering of the character models up, and also it is also likely that the first one was slightly doctored by SE so that they could estimate what it would eventually look like.

  70. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    All PS-fans will kill them self later on when FF is out and they notice the superior grafic and speed the 360 will have.

  71. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    perhaps the second picture is a graphic example on what the game will look like on 360

  72. Ps2.5
    PS2.5 | August 3, 2009

    ami-sama or what if you wake up from the past and see how it realy is.

  73. Xbox
    kami-sama | August 3, 2009

    I am getting mad at all these Xbitches telling how their system is better than the ps3. So what if you have a better gpu and I don't know what else, when the console blows up after a few hours of gaming and slices the discs into shreds. That's not power - that's Bull$hit!!!

  74. Untitled
    vx2 | August 3, 2009

    vx

    let me rephrase that for you.....

    ... You have ruined internet with your stupidity.

  75. lol
    vx | August 3, 2009

    "Fanboys have ruined gaming." let me rephrase that for you "MS have ruined gaming" as they did with there Shitty OS

  76. Untitled
    Kashrak | August 3, 2009

    1. To be honest, there is NO REAL hardware difference between PS3 and 360. In the end they are both comparable in their possibilities.

    2. I got both consoles, PS3 and 360, but I have to admit that muliplattform games usually look definetely better on 360. Read the Eurogamer.net 360vs.PS3 articles are look at gametrailers.com videos.

    3. PS3 can do amazing stuff with PS3-only games.

    4. I believe its not the fault of any of both consoles, but a downgrade from a PC workengine to a console. And a newest PC is still better than a console, graphic wise

  77. Its just a game...
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    Fanboys have ruined gaming.

  78. Untitled
    to powom | August 3, 2009

    powom

    haha yea PS2.5 is the most powerful :D

    LfuckingOL

  79. ...
    powom | August 3, 2009

    PS3 exclusives have shown many times which is the most powerful machine!

  80. The Dope Jedi
    DopeJedi | August 3, 2009

    Come on guys, we all know the whole debackle that happened with Ghostbusters. Even though Ghostbusters was made for the PS3, it showed us all how bad a game can look on a Playstation versus the XBOX 360. There was no excuse for that!

    So I imagine there will be no difference, it's all about marketing and money in the end, and the enjoyment you had playing it.

  81. Pi$$ing Contest
    Orbilator | August 3, 2009

    Sorry, When did the Pi$$ing Contest start?

    I thought we were comparing the new engine build, Square are there own worse enemy here, they should state that both pictures are builds on the same machine or not.
    To be honest the second Picture has a nicer look to it, as the first build look a bit bland and defo rendered. The depth of field does wonders for the whole image.
    I cant get over the hate these days between 360 and PS3 owners, it saddens me greatly. Its a multiplatform gaME AND THATS THAT. We should all be hoping the game plays well. I remember a while back an article that said we were no longer all graphics whores, but I guess that was a lie. 95% of all agruments from 360 and PS3 users is my GFX look better than yours.
    Well let me tell you something, It doesnt matter, if the game plays well and the graphics look great, I dont give a holly sh@t what version looks better, I will buy it for any console that I currently own.
    Please can we not just all get along.

  82. Untitled
    wannabe | August 3, 2009

    KZ2


    LOL HAHAHAHHAHAHA

  83. Undisputed winner
    KZ | August 3, 2009

    "For any "amazing visuals" PS3 game you post, I can post an "amazing visuals" 360 game"

    There's no better looking game on Xbox 360 than Killzone 2 is! Killzone 2 is the undisputed graphics king of the consoles and that's a fact!

  84. Untitled
    360bringsitdown | August 3, 2009

    First pic PS3 version!

    Second pic 360 version!

  85. Untitled
    Sony suxx | August 3, 2009

    360 version will be superior to the PS2.5

  86. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    LOL PS3 suck and we all know it.
    360 is better on almost every game out there.

  87. WARNING: Incoming Logic
    Cyber Akuma | August 3, 2009

    Sigh, the idiocy in these comments, and I thought the fanboys at GameFaqs were bad....

    FACT #1: The first screenshot has an almost 100% chance of being a render TARGET and DOCTORED, its an EXAMPLE of what they were shooting for, not an in-game screenshot. This was coined as a "bullshot."

    FACT #2: PS3 has the more powerful CPU (arguably) but the 360 has a more powerful GPU and better memory managment.

    FACT #3: Many argue that FF12 looked better than FF10.... guess what? FF12 had a LOWER polycount on the character models than FF10. higher polycounts do not mean better visuals.

    FACT #4: If you are going to try to state a fact, post reasoning for it "Teh 360 suzzorz!!1111oneoneone" is not reason. It's not even English.

    FACT #5: For any "amazing visuals" PS3 game you post, I can post an "amazing visuals" 360 game, and vice versa.

    Seriously, why is this site filled with such Sony drones? You're worse than Wii fanboys. You claim that 360 owners are trying to justify their purpose but all it sounds like is you trying to justify YOUR purchase of a PS3.

    Everybody seems to think that the graphics were "tones down" because of the 360 version (which has MORE POWERFUL graphics hardware mind you) with no logic or reason whatsoever, simply because they want their PS3 to look better.

    I can show you a million games that look nothing like their original trailers/screenshots on just about every system ever released.

    But I am sure you will ignore all my logic and reason to claim "J00 360 fanboy!!!1 U juz won't want yourz 3shitty to failzorz!!!111 u suxorz!!!111"

    No wonder Sony thinks they can sucker you into buiyng a fouth PSP with missing parts and a jacked up price.

    Are you going to buy a $900 PS3Go with no Blu-Ray drive if Sony announces one too?

    And for the record, I have just about every system made by Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft, including a PS3, and the PS2 is my favorite system, im no "360 fanboy".

  88. Terrible
    GheTTo DaN | August 3, 2009

    wowz0rz Demon, you have no idea what u r talking about. The PS3 has so much more graphical power in its little pinky than the 360 in its entire whole. The 360 is ruining the outcome of FF13. When a developer is making a game multiplatform, they make it to the lowest common denominator...which in this situation is the 360. After which they port over to the other console(s). 360 can blow my 180 degree rod.

  89. My esplication
    Italian stallion | August 3, 2009

    Guilty is of the inferiority of Xbox 360, then they have to do this bad thing!!! (Sorry for my bad english)

  90. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    fu cking 3shitty go to hell, stop bringing down the game, and the video game industry in general. leave FF 13 alone!!

  91. lame
    me | August 3, 2009

    @demon500 yeah well then why have the maxed out the 360. games are not going to look any better then they are now on 360. look at uncharted 2 do you really think that the ps3 is pushing less polygons then the 360 i dont think so. people who bought the 360 are just mad because they bought the shittiest next gen system and now they are trying to make themselves feel better by saying it is the better system instead of admitting that they fucked up and bought a shitty system. why do you think the 360 is the cheapest system because its crap with cheap parts. they sell you accessories that are way overpriced like a hard drive you can only buy from microsoft a hd player oh wait that was shit too. ff13 versus will look a million times better because it is ps3 exclusive they already said it was going to look real good.

  92. GPU
    Demon5000 | August 2, 2009

    You guys need to go do some tech search, let me tell you the 360 gpu can push way more polygons then the ps3, so tell me how can the 360 be downgrading the ps3 graphics, the one thing you guys do not get is that the game will look the same on both consoles,

  93. Really?
    billy | August 2, 2009

    this is a great example on how not to write an article......

  94. Reeetard
    Anonymous | August 2, 2009

    stupid asains
    Anonymous | August 2, 2009

    you assholes are so fuckin retarded... 'moneysoft'? are you serious? what the fuck does moneysoft mean? and xbox 'shitty'? wow... final fantasy games are retarded anyway but if SE had a superior version they wouldnt dumb it down for the 360.

    Lol, Learn to spell Asians right before you try and diss us.

  95. Stupid you say
    vx | August 2, 2009

    they only stupid here are the ignorant people like you ! this game graphics is now the same as LS and SO4 i was really questioning the games graphics recently but didn't see anyone point this out so i thought im wrong till this article made things clear

  96. Untitled
    manoj | August 2, 2009

    Stupid article and stupid comments

  97. blah
    Stephander | August 2, 2009

    You kids are rehabs, the first pic is pre rendered, they did what most every playstation game does, they show a trailer with pretty prerendered graphics and then the game comes out with less, happens with plenty of games, dont blame it on the 360, the 360 has been proven to be able to handle the same graphics as the playstation dumbasses, so get yer head out of sonys ass you dick licking fucks and wake up that yer console aint all yer tiny little brains dream it up to be

  98. xx
    XX | August 2, 2009

    They made low quality CG for xbox, suck!!

  99. Untitled
    GameFan | August 2, 2009

    In the new build the textures look more washed out and the colors look muted. Its still a very pretty game but if you have a sharp eye you should be able to see the drop in the graphical fidelity

  100. not pre-rendered
    vx | August 2, 2009

    the 1st one doesn't look like pre-rendered there is no WOW to it, it just looks good and it is what SE game should looks like, but seeing the quality of LR and SO4 ,,the 2nd pic looks to be true and FF quality is just like those two which is shit cuz bot of them are Xbots game

  101. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 2, 2009

    the first one looks pre-rendered..
    pretty clean for the current gen consoles.

  102. Untitled
    necronzero | August 2, 2009

    All I can say:

    When FFXIII:

    -Was PS3 Exclusive: IT LOOKED GREAT

    -Became Multiplatform: GRAPHICS TURNED INTO A PIECE OF SHIT.

  103. stupid asains
    Anonymous | August 2, 2009

    you assholes are so fuckin retarded... 'moneysoft'? are you serious? what the fuck does moneysoft mean? and xbox 'shitty'? wow... final fantasy games are retarded anyway but if SE had a superior version they wouldnt dumb it down for the 360.

  104. Untitled
    LOL | August 2, 2009

    dbronco, please give me some of what the hell you were just smoking because you're full of shit.

  105. Possible
    Rod man | August 2, 2009

    It's possible that what we originally saw was in no way, shape, or form going to be what we realistically ended up with and the 2nd pic is what would make sense.

  106. Untitled
    No_PUDding | August 2, 2009

    It's not even the 360 holdng anything back, it's just clear having to develop to take into account the lowest common denominator non both consoles, will have made the game turn out worse, overall.

    It was developed with an amount of multiplatform in mind anyway.

  107. commnet was for dcbronco
    vx | August 2, 2009

    the comment meant for "Dcbronco"

  108. @the douche
    vx | August 2, 2009

    the douchebag below me? what fucking PC version u sucker talking about? this game was for PS3 only, then when they announced it for the Shitty 360 they said the graphics will be the same on both,,hint hint hint! the fucking ps3 was not only delayed but alos downgraded

  109. Untitled
    leandro koiti | August 2, 2009

    the textures from the old build are looking much better, but I like added depth of field and the way the characters were rendered on the new engine

  110. damn suck SE fail
    dumb SE | August 2, 2009

    man, no wander SE fail and fail, fuck them.

    they want quantity instead of quality and this is what happen.

  111. Untitled
    dcbronco | August 2, 2009

    Unofficial site. Official assholes commenting. The PS3 version was supposed to be finished long before the 360 version. The PS3 had the original code. The 360 version would be the one downgraded, not the PS3 version. The PC version will look better than both. Why won't it be downgraded. Just wake up and realize the PS3 is not everything Sony said it would be. They originally thought it wouldn't need a graphics card at all. They just didn't know what they were doing.

  112. F...ck 360
    ChristianTorres | August 2, 2009

    This is what we get when we leave games taken from us. Arrrgh, I'm so angry, I hope they don't do this to the versus game. XBOX 360 will burn to the ground.

  113. da Box of shit
    vx | August 2, 2009

    fuck da Xbots they downgrade FROZA3 They downgraded Alan Wake AND now they fucking downgraded FF13 ,,failsXfails only on the shitty box.. i really hope they dint touch FFv13 those bots, and the problem is that JRPJs dont sale on the shitty box

  114. Untitled
    Eggo_Waffle | August 2, 2009

    Kinda figured the full potential of the PS3 wouldn't get pushed with this game. Oh well, at least there's still FF Versus 13...for now

  115. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 2, 2009

    fuck the 360 man it just made it worse

  116. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 2, 2009

    it the moneysoft fault they bc of 360 bc that the 360 isn't as grapicly as good as the ps3 so to make it fair they down graded it so moneysoft did sue them or anyhing else

  117. wow
    wow | August 2, 2009

    Looks like the game got a huge graphical downgrade. This is probably due to the 360.

  118. Untitled
    John | August 2, 2009

    I love how people are blaming this on the 360...that isn't the 360 version. Why would sony make a game...then remake it not as good. This article is obviously wrong/is using old information.

  119. Untitled
    alec | August 2, 2009

    Snow looks photoshopped in pic 1. Looks at his hat. The glow on top is unnatural.

  120. Older Version by far
    Madfoxx | August 2, 2009

    In the older version the textures of the clothes and hair are ten times better. The colors are also more vibrant and the lighting is better. . . notice the shadow on lighting's right shoulder? It isnt there in the later build. In the later build, the water isn't as detailed. I was afraid of this, but it looks like they toned down the graphics because of the 360 version. It is really sad. PS3 owners have been waiting for this game for years and they're not going to get the quality version they deserve. Works cannot express how ashamed I am of Square Enix. I'm still getting the game though.

  121. lame
    me | August 2, 2009

    yeah the newer pic looks shittier then the old pics. older one looks better. they must have reduced it cause of the xbox 3shitty that sucks.

  122. Untitled
    villiers | August 2, 2009

    Look at the newer build shots...

    http://i40.tinypic.com/214scvr.jpg
    http://i42.tinypic.com/e6ub5y.jpg

    (I got these of N4G)

    The worser looking image is from 2008, as you can see the 2009 build even surpasses the better looking older pic.

  123. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 2, 2009

    ive not seen anything better, villiers. these guys have just posted two similar shots, i cant see anything wrong with that

  124. Untitled
    No_PUDding | August 2, 2009

    You can literally see the poly faces on her in the newer build. They have defintely made the models again, with a lower poly count.

    Can you see how it has sharp (not jaggy) corners on her shoulders?

    And the hair curls have reduce poly faces (specifically on the strands hanging down).

    Shit.... I am so disappointed, I was scared the 360 would amke that happen.

  125. FFXIII
    wakpal | August 2, 2009

    Old version looks better.

  126. Untitled
    Villiers | August 2, 2009

    This article needs to be REMOVED.

    Your comparing images from the Jump Festa 2008 trailer, the graphics are now on par with the newer older better shot


Post a comment

Your name:
Message title:
Comment: