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Even more FF13 Graphic Changes

AP | August 3, 2009

After yesterday's story on FF13 Graphics Changes in Action, a few more near-identical screens have surfaced showing off the difference between the older build of Final Fantasy XIII.

Here they are - come to your own conclusions and let us know in the comment box! As always, old is the first, new is the second.







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Comments
  1. This isn't a 360/PS3 comparison.
    VersusXIII | February 13, 2010

    Maybe everyone lacks the ability to read but this isn't a 360/PS3 comparison shot. This is a comparison shot between the first build of the game (presumably the demo) and the one that we are BOTH going to get on BOTH consoles. Please people, look at the obvious differences. For example, lighting has brown hair, her face is thicker and she looks manlier. On the bottom pic is the official look for Lighting with a smaller frame and strawberry blonde hair. Jesus christ people.

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    akeenobu | August 19, 2009

    If only PS3 slim came a little sooner this might have never happened. Oh and Starting Tomorrow the PS3 is available for 299 USD but if u want the slim you have to wait until September 1st.

  3. 1.Graphical downgrade debunked.
    Anonymous | August 6, 2009

    Everyone might want to read this here:

    http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/ffxiii---no--downgrade-/883918#message

    There goes this theory of graphics of the 360 version being debunked.

  4. PS3 is where you find the best looking games
    bestofthebest | August 5, 2009

    Uncharted 2 > all 360 exclusives and multiplats

    http://tinyurl.com/km3gtj

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    WTFMICROsOFT | August 5, 2009

    wow. wtf is with microsoft. its all about the stupid fucking money thats why the 360 graphics has a fucking green tint to it.

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    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    شثصحكسشيبنمسبتشسيكمنتشسكمينتبسشيكنم تبشيسكنمتبشسيكنمتبشسكمينتبسشينمتبشس ينمتبكسشينمتبشكسيبشنسيمتبسشنبتسيتبب تتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتت تتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتت تتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتت تتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتت تتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتتت تتتتتتتتتتت

  7. منيبتسشكيبنمشيتكبشسيمتب
    شبنمتسيشكم | August 4, 2009

    فاينال فانتسي من عمره خايس احسن شي جينجدوم هارتس وبسسسسسسسسسسسس

  8. انتو فاضيين خخخخخخخ
    DSDS | August 4, 2009

    مالت عليكم انتو كلكم خخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخ خخ

  9. سهال
    كيكى | August 4, 2009

    مالت عليكم خخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخخ

  10. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    Are we commenting on a screen shots or debating an issue of life or death? Some of the comments or so extremely hateful that they are funny.

    Aside from that, I would have to say that not much can be said about the differences until there is more information. But even if there were a downgrade, are graphics the only reason for getting Final Fantasy games? I still love to play IV and VI, and you can bet it is not because of the graphics.

  11. ....
    <_< | August 4, 2009

    CGI CGI <_<

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    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    GODDAMN look at all of these fucking fanboys. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    lol! the second screenshots have a tinge of 360 green :p

  14. this game will flop
    baller | August 4, 2009

    this game is going to have shitty graphics i dunno if the game will be good but the graphics will flop for sure

  15. You guys really think...
    sleewok | August 4, 2009

    Do you guys really think that they would "downgrade" the PS3 build? That doesn't make any sense. The only reason I could see Square doing that is because they don't have enough hardware resources (with a separate sets of assets required for each platform), which I doubt is the case. The reality is probably one of a few options.

    A: The original screen shots were taken from dev machines (PC) and not from an actual build. Before a game is pushed to a console there is quite a bit of processing that takes place in order to optimize for that platform

    B: The original shots are from an actual build of the game running on the PS3 (notice the lower poly count in the necklace) and the newer shots are taken from the xbox build

    C: The game was having inconsistent performance and they needed to optimize...simple as that.

    D: ?????

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    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    Wow it seems PS3 owners are frustrated bcoz now they have to face competion from 360 haha...I'm just telling all those who think they work at Square Enix and apparently know why the graphic has changed...U HAVE THE MICROSOFT HATRED DISEASE...Let the company tells first why they changed it

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    -__- | August 4, 2009

    first screen is a CGI and second real-time... -_-

  18. 360 is asshole
    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    360 is asshole

  19. 360 is gay
    360isgay | August 4, 2009

    360 is gay

  20. ff.com
    dr.e-madness | August 4, 2009

    WHAT THE HELL

    Those Games that you said looks better on 360 the ps3 IS PORT

    LOOK AT mirror edge .. is looks better then PS3 then 360 .

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    hano | August 4, 2009

    Uh-Oh, what a downgrade, they should have made the game for PS3 & PC only. At least, they wouldn't have to downgrade it for the PC.

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    Yupiman | August 4, 2009

    "so 360 have sold 30+ million and PS3 have sold 23+ million.....and oh wait :D 360 been out for how much longer? Either way the game still looks kinda sweet and I'm gonna buy it. "

    Well You know Sony had a golden horn. Sony was BIG Playstation was big. Who could stand against PSX and PS2? No one! What Sony did? They screw things up. Sorry but that's the truth.

    I have both PS3 and X360 and i prefer games on my PS3 even multiplatform ones why? Because PS3 is silent! I love silence! Xbox 360 runs like my old shitty PC :) but when i looked on the shelves with my old games for PS2 I will still say:l Sony failed in my eyes.

    And yes i even prefer PSN over XBL i hate to pay for online gaming sooo i hate XBL.

    Still M$ f**cks Sony like horny stud

  23. Mr
    Sauce Engine | August 4, 2009

    The game has clearly been gimped for the old tech inside the 360.

    What game has ever gone backwards in graphics from an old build??? It is unheard of. Look how much Killzone 2 improved from the early in-game shots.

    The only conclusion is the graphics have been scaled back for both versions because of the limited 360 and it's old DVD drive.

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    Anonymous | August 4, 2009

    so 360 have sold 30+ million and PS3 have sold 23+ million.....and oh wait :D 360 been out for how much longer? Either way the game still looks kinda sweet and I'm gonna buy it.

    For the record im not a fanboy. I have both, just hate all the fanboyism, it'll still be a sweet game, buy it, love it, cherish it.....as long as its better then ff12 cause that was SHIT :)

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    name | August 4, 2009

    im very dissapointed in SE.
    theve sold there soul.
    showing CGI screens than showing screen shots that look like a bloody ps2 game in comparison, look at the color in her face in the first screen she looks like shes seen a ghost.
    theres no color in her skin nothing at all.
    the light reflecting of the blade.
    im so dissapointed in SE showing off CGI than showing the game at such lower quality and hoping no one will notice.
    sorry SE you just lost a sale.

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    manoj | August 4, 2009

    u guys are nuts..the E3 gameplay showed for 360 was way prettier than the screenshots (new and old). Square never had graphical supremacy in this generation and am sure that both 360 and PS3 can handle it easily.

    Also the playstation build was almost 50% complete before they even started working on the 360 version..do u think they will purposely go and dumb down the PS3 version for which work is complete to match the 360...

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    hg | August 4, 2009

    One upon a time there was a console manufacturer who rox the world with PS1 and PS2 unfortunatelly Bill came and stick his dick in Sony ass

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    xbox360roxxthewolrd | August 4, 2009

    u can say what u want but PS3 sold 23 milions units versus 30+ Xbox360 EAT THAT :D

    och no FFXIII is NO LONGER PS3 exclusive. Mama mia! Sony is stupid

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    Xbox360isarubbish | August 4, 2009

    Xbox360isarubbish box useless.less game and full of rubbish graphics and childish fans

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    Zell | August 4, 2009

    No version was downgraded you morons this not so good looking pic is from the demo from the FF7 Movie which used a less powerfull graphics engine compared to the one being used now. So both fan boys shut up cuz you both clearly dont know JACK.

    Good Pics btw :)

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    holymoli | August 4, 2009

    u wanna know WHAT downgrade PS3 version? OLD graphics chip in your stupid Console and LACK od memory u fools and fanboys go **** yourself with you bluRay

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    hahaha | August 4, 2009

    PS3 Suxx ballls

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    Wes | August 4, 2009

    its easy to compare these. The first image is Xbox and the second image is PS3. Not vice vrsa ill stake my reputation on it

  34. man...
    SpiderPS3 | August 4, 2009

    That picture of Vanille is worth a thousand sperm. she's very sexy

  35. hk
    Stephander | August 3, 2009

    all the ps3 fags who are complainin about sqaure betrayin and the game being dumbed down and shit, are still gonna buy it the day it comes out. Paphetic fanboys.

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    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    SE will never admitt, but they had to lower game quality for sake of M$.

  37. To the faggot ^ 800 carsGT5
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/02/video-gt5-trailer-released-gran-turismo-for-psp-coming-this-oc/

    Eat your heart you faggot suck my cock.

    Ill wait for your response I know its coming... Your like puddy in my hands faggot hahahahahahahahah.

  38. xtomey
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    The new screens look have definately lost its sharpness. I really do not like the color/hue differences between the older and newer build. I was really excited at earlier screens and gameplay. Now, this game is becoming a graphical letdown.

    Just the color difference in the first set of screen shots does it for me. Not lookin good in my opinion.

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    joe | August 3, 2009

    @ comment 1: Killzone 2 is natively 720p, not 1080p.

    GT5 has not had an official number of cars released, so 800+ is a complete fabrication on your part. Forza 2 also has over 100 tracks, guaranteed.

    You're an idiot.

  40. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    "First of all you are a fanboy for that comment most multi-playform games the 360 has either a higher resolution, or AA or in gernrally has better frame rates."

    And you're a fanboy for saying that you freaking retard.

  41. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    "itas because of version of 360 is dowgrade the version of ps3"

    First of all you are a fanboy for that comment most multi-playform games the 360 has either a higher resolution, or AA or in gernrally has better frame rates.

    COD4, COD WAW, and including sports games.

    You need to do research before you post bullsh*t like that over the internet.

  42. Crack
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    Crack......

  43. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    lol killzone doesnt run in 1080p natively fool, and it does upscale. What the hell are you smoking?

  44. LMFAO
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    You retards are comparing mutliplats...... Look at Killzone 2 that plays naively in 1080p it does not upscale..... Look at Ucharted 2 and Heavy Rain and Tell me better graphics aren't possible.

    Multiplat devs are lazy fucks and you know it, they'll do what it takes to make it just good enough.....

    John Carmack says that DVD9 is holding Rage back its a fact... its gonna come one 2 disc what is this 1998????? Forza 3 will be on 2 discs LMAFO.... with only 400 cars.. omg 12 disc box sets coming your way.

    While GT5 can do 800+ cars all with cockpit view and Rally, Nascar and about 79 different tracks...

    Have Fun retards we still have FF13 Versus.

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    ET | August 3, 2009

    FYI the first two screens are BOTH cgi screenshots, not a cgi compared with a game play screenshot.

  46. Again, Really?
    billy | August 3, 2009

    this is where the article fails once again. the first picture of lightning is cgi from one of the first trailers and the one below it is the in game rendering of her...it doesnt show in game grahical changes, just the difference between cgi and a clip of what the game looks like when its actually running....

    you know, for a final fantasy site you guys arent very good at actually reporting legit news/articles. once again this is just a sad attempt at getting hits by dragging in fans/fanboys to look and scream "the *system* is bringing down the quality of the game"......i mean seriously?

    and to the idiots saying the 360 is dragging down the quality of the game, you wouldnt know inless you were actually working on it so keep your fanboyism to yourselves...

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    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    that looks bad, very bad. even if its gameplay it looks like a ps2 game, i think FFXII looks better.

  48. CGI and in-game
    truegamer89 | August 3, 2009

    C'mon ppl. the top pics (older ones) are CGI and the bottom pics (newer ones) are in-game, so i dont think the graphics were dropped and that MS needs to be blame. Stop this fanboyism nonsense.

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    Kaio | August 3, 2009

    Why does 360 keep f-ing games up for the rest of us. Rejoice 3shitty fags, you have Final Fantasy XIII disks and shitty graphics.

  50. the 360's ati gpu is better at rendering shadows
    Scruffy | August 3, 2009

    I'm getting the 360 version because it will have better graphics.

  51. get over it
    Demon | August 3, 2009

    When will people stop bashing the 360 you Sony fools are blaming the 360 for final fantasy graphics being downgraded, this is what happens when you set the target to high, no console game that has CGI trailer as a target will reach the same level of "lod", the next gen will tho, but I will tell you 360 will have better textures then ps3 with any game this gen, and now that squire have the new sdk and debug card from Microsoft you will see a huge leap forward on xbox dev the 360 is not holding ps3 back.

  52. I hope this releases on PC
    blah | August 3, 2009

    I hope the game releases on PC with the best graphics. I'll buy that instead. But japanese developers suck at doing PC ports.

  53. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    l

  54. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    OMG! Why are people trying to compare gameplay footage and highdef CG as if they were the same?

  55. the truth
    Karlitos | August 3, 2009

    this is a process of game development, first screens were running on the pc's with multicore cpu's and quadro video cards with everything maxed out... when the game was almost complete benchmarks were run on other platforms such as ps3 and xbox360 when developers noticed frame drops they were forced to downgrade some textures and do some shader reprogramming which resulted in some quality drops but gain some framerate boost... The main point is the gameplay, it must play like a butter not a choppy old car. If you want to get the best quality just get the game for pc and make sure u have a biffed up pc for it.

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    Feral_Kitsune | August 3, 2009

    Okay, you fanboys need to die. Seriously, you are the plaque of the gaming community, no one gives a shit what you say, and you're all too stupid to have an actual debate. Not an argument, but a debate where you would calmly support your system of choice, and not just go around making stupid, immature names and flaming random forum boards.

  57. It's time
    ChristianTorres | August 3, 2009

    for the 360 to die. We have to unite. Wait, that thing is even commiting suicide. RRoD. It knows this is the best thing for humanity.

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    necronzero | August 3, 2009

    Why do we PS3 owners haf to suffer because of the 3Shitty... I know those poor fuckers that only haf a 360 will defend the game as fek and will say its not M$ fault but it is! we never EVER so the game lower its graphics in the time it was a PS3 only game, I MEAN HECK! look at VERSUS XIII in game trailer and be the judge IT LOOKS WAY BETTER!

    FFXIII = GARBAGE (thx microcock)
    FFVSXIII = EPIC

  59. more idiots than fans
    jeremy | August 3, 2009

    this is my rant: why are people bringing up posts saying that FFXIII was dumbed down? the graphics still look great and they won't effect the gameplay in anyway. i don't know if anyone noticed but the backgrounds look MORE detail than eariler scans (others will agree with me on this). if anything the character models are going to be improved over time. the game is still months away from being released. it still looks better than FFXII. don't drag the 360 into this

    all this hate on FFXIII because of petty **bleep** like "its multiplatform now!" or "its suffering cuz the 3fixme" or "squeenix is a traitor" is so damn pathetic now. it was funny at first but now it makes me feel sorry for the fanchase to have more losers in its fan base than actual dedicated fans. i'm not fan of final fantasy (i only have crisis core and FFIIV from psn) but i think its sad for a non-fan like me to appreciate the series more than the real fans. if any of u guys were real fans u wouldn't care about the game being multiplatform or having a reduced but still superb quality. you'd still buy the game. ..and if u DO buy the game after bashing it, ur a hypocrite. this is why i waited more than 2 years to by a ps3

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    NotaFan | August 3, 2009

    this article is gay (like the writer), it compares an old CGI scenes (at that time, even the engine wan not finished yet) with a new actual game play ones. there is no downgrade here, and the graphics are just beautiful.

  61. STFU!
    Scott2Naughty | August 3, 2009

    All of you guys talking about which console is better, are lame! If you had both systems, you wouldn't even give a damn. You are just trying justify the system you have. That's it! So Shut the hell up and go play the system you have and stop bitching about the thing you don't have!

  62. which_is_better
    you_choose | August 3, 2009

    Ninja Gaiden 2 (XO) = 1120x585 + choppy framerate
    Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (PS3) = 1280x720 + smooth framerate

  63. LOLz
    pinganator | August 3, 2009

    well, it WAS looking promising, now, we'll just say i wont be getting this till its $19.99 USED at gamestop or unless i borrow it. Good job SQUARE assholes, now your own peeps in Japan will flip their shits and wonder why you decided to please America's cock instead?

    i'll just ride on Modern Warfare 2, Bioshock 2 and Gran Turismo 5 to keep me till Final Fantasy Versus XIII and maybe that Kingdom Hearts III game that'll be released in 2020

    And im not against the 360, I'm just a believer in games, and how each game shines to its perspective console, I'm against great games fucked my mere "console wars" and "fanboy-ism"

    Gears of War/Halo should be on 360 period.

    MGS4 should be on PS3 and FFXIII SHOULD have been on PS3. Period.

  64. I can tell this is Xbox 360 territory
    tmt345 | August 3, 2009

    I can't believe people here are saying that the PS3 and Xbox 360 are equal in power! Show me a 360 game that looks as good as Uncharted 2 or GOWIII or Killzone 2! You can't, Splinter Cell and Alan Wait aren't THAT impressive graphically. They do look fun to play though. Splinter Cell will probably come to the PS3 after a year on the 360 with some DLC anyways. The days of PS3 having no exclusives are over, it has more and better exclusives than the 360 now! And its online is now on par/almost on par with Live, and its FREE!

    Uncharted
    Resistance
    Resistance 2
    MGS4
    Ratchet and Clank
    inFamous
    Killzone 2
    Flower
    Singstar
    Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
    Heavenly Sword
    Little Big Planet
    Motorstorm
    Motorstorm 2
    SOCOM
    Valkria Chronicles
    Wipeout HD
    Afrika
    Agent
    Eyepet
    Fat Princess
    FF13 Versus (devs themselves said it was the superior FF13 game)
    Gran Turismo 5
    God of War III
    Uncharted 2
    Heavy Rain
    MAG
    FF14
    White Knite Chronicles
    The Last Guardian
    Ratchet and Clank 2
    MLB 09: The Show
    Tekken 6
    Warhawk

    *watches for people to post the worst pictures of Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, and GOWIII and compare to the best of Splinter Cell and Alan Wait*

    Sony owns 20 first party studios and has 10 second party ones, they will always have the most and best exclusives because of this!

  65. Still Looks Good
    Killroycantkill | August 3, 2009

    I hate all these comment's about people saying the game is being dumbed down because of the Xbox. Now I don't own an Xbox 360 and I only own a PS3 but this game is going to look amazing regardless.

    Half of you people complaining shouldn't be because you wouldn't be able to tell some slight graphic updates like this by looking at it unless someone told you. The screenshots make it look just like a lighting engine update since the textures look about the same, little diffrences in the hair I noticed but nothing major.

    Also making a game costs millions of dollars so think of the business model before you guys start crying about multiplatform games.

    Have them on both or don't have it at all.

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    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    lol you bitch like it matters. sony and ms are full of shit, so fuck em both

  67. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    no m8t your wrong becouse, if they make a multiplatform game they have to make the game graphicly in compatible with the least piwerful console such as the xbox, they spend so much time on the 360 version n not so much on the ps3 now thats a fact, to back it up ninja gaiden sigma 2, look at the detail compared to the xbbox version, and nw look wats far more surperia, its just the truth, the 360 is a rushed console n becouse of the ps3 suffers, heavenly sword for instance 1st ever title on ps3 n matches up 2 half the 360 exclusives out now so get ur facts write...

  68. cool
    madcowz64 | August 3, 2009

    I can't wait for this game, I'm probably gunna get the ps3 version over the 360 because I have a feeling that the 360 version is going to have more than one dvd compared to one Blu ray disc. But graphically they're going to look the same mabey a slight advantage for both(for example lets say textures look better on ps3 but shadows look better on 360, totally an example and not true).

  69. Huh?
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    To thablinksta & killswitchmad, what about games that are in development for PS3 first, or that games were ported from PS3 to 360? They STILL came out to be running & looking better on 360!

    Plus any exclusive that PS3 has can easily pull out the same kind of graphics or even better graphics on the 360 in less development time & money. That's a fact.

  70. @GheTTo DaN
    Anon | August 3, 2009

    They don't make multiplats on the lowest common denominator, they make multiplats on the one thats easierst to program for. The 360 is easier to program for, and porting games to the PS3 doesn't mean half ass job, it means more effort because of the poor programming architecture used to interface with the hardware. If the PS3 truly was the superior console for graphics, then multiplats would look better on the more powerful console, but they don't, and thats because PS3 is not that superior.

    You're pulling some serious fanboy statements with no theory or evidence to back them up. so QFT.

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    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    fuck square they just fucked up a good graphical quality over a shitty xbox

  72. Untitled
    John | August 3, 2009

    Why are people blaming this on the 360...blame this on square. The 360 has titles that look better than those new screen shots. And let us mention that I doubt that those are 360 screen shots, but ps3 screen shots. There is no reason to downgrade the ps3 version for the 360. I'm sure this is just either a mistake or something is wrong. This is the only site that I've seen these screen shots coming from so they might have some inaccurate information.

  73. wow
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    its sad when the previous build 2008 looks better than the new. 1 looks better than 2
    3 looks better than 4. . Until FF13 releases, the fanboy crap not gonna stop...I care less cause so far square enix has ****ed up bad. Im expecting FF13 to blow

  74. Galvatron...you have no idea
    GheTTo DaN | August 3, 2009

    WTF are you talking about? I could barely make out anything you are trying to say, your english is terrible. There is no discussion, the 360 cannot compare to the PS3's graphical power. None what so ever.

    If you knew anything, than maybe you would understand why multiplatform games for the most part look better on the 360. When A developer is making a game that is for more than one console, they make it to the lowest common denominator. Between the PS3 and 360, that's the 360. After which they then port the game over to the other console. When you port a game over to another console, it's like doing a half ass job. The PS3 is not being used to it's full potential.

    If you still don't understand, which I'm sure you don't, I have an example for you. Imagine you have 2 cups. One cup is bigger than the other. Let's say the bigger cup is the PS3 and the smaller cup is the 360. Now our goal is to fill up one cup completely with water and then pour that water from that cup to the other. Still with me? If we filled up the bigger cup and then poured that bigger cup into the smaller cup, it would overflow. But if you fill up the smaller cup and then pour that into the bigger cup, it would not spill and there would still be space for more water. That extra space being wasted, is the potential they are not using for the PS3.

    If you still don't understand than I'm sorry, you're just another ignorant fanboy.

  75. CG to In Game
    Decoy | August 3, 2009

    In Lightning's picture you can see that original is CG and the second is the In Game version of that, but its still the early build the the engine as they stated about the release of the demo with ACC. I am thinking that they CG is like a goal they want to reach with their game engine, but we will have to see when the game is done.

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    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    I think first picture PS3, second 360...

  77. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    Maybe it is because on the PS3 it'll use CG for cutscenes and on 360 it'll render real time. HD CG will take too much space on the DVD.

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    ps3 delusional fanboy | August 3, 2009

    The top ones are CGI and the bottom ones are what Squeenix has been able to get out PS3...

    Xbox 360 has nothing to do with this since it's only actually been shown just this year working on Xbox 360.

  79. ?????
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    The full game is release this year in Japan, that should be the bench mark. Japan will compare the demo with the release version. SE will be compared to Uncharted 2 and Ratchet if they down grade the graphics to fit on the XBOX limited system then the game will flop.

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    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    Those are not Taget renders or CGI. Take a look at the first gameplay footage from 2006. This game was ready in 2007, but thx to MS it was delayed so both versions would luanch at the same time. For most 360 owners, this is there first console and think of it as love at first sight. Nothing you can say or do to make them see the truth. It has been retooled so that one version doesnt look better than the other. Hence why it was delayed another 3 years. Was it dumbed down? Ofcourse it was. And if you still do not think it was then lets look at uncharted 1. Multiplats are limited to 8gigs wile PS3 exclusives are limited to 50gigs. Like someone else said in this forum, only reson games look better on 360 is becuase MS paid them to do it that way. If your still blind on the matter, then just look at PS3 exsculisives.

  81. @galvatron the douche wise man
    vx | August 3, 2009

    MGR is nothing like MGS (just like a FF-action games) all of them are fails or the MGS-card on the psp which is a fail. regrading MGS4, i bet you douchei finished MGS 1st run in 5hrs. and the 55min movie it is what MGS games to present an amazing story, so stop whining.
    in any case FF13 graphics are now = to LR and SO4 (both xbots games) which is an epic fail no need to find excuses for SE or your heater system.

  82. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    The screens that you are looking at are not the older build on the top and the newer on the bottom. The top screen is the newer build and the bottom screen is from the demo which was stated as a very early build.

  83. Untitled
    Matt | August 3, 2009

    You guys are stupid. The top picture is CG and the bottom picture was taken from the game in early development (i.e. the demo).

  84. @vx sony fanboy
    galvatron | August 3, 2009

    Perharps do 2 u r inablility to generally read,comes this type of what should i call it,flame at best?Never said mgr = mgs4...and if yor think that mgr is lesser in graphics(i truly hope the plot and gameplay exceeds the 5hours gameplay and 55 hours of cinematic action in its predecessor..)than in mgs4,you r probably once again utterly deluted,proven once more from u r statement that the 360 does not have(in your only god forsaken dementia)any good games for everyone to expirience...Bet your age (what is it...8-12?that how you missed all good 360 games ,being rated 18+?)does nt allow u to see beyond your fanboyish"mine is better than yours"attitude...Go back 2 your mommy and grow some beard...eventually,and let the grown ups do the talking 4 u...since we cant expect much from you and your theories...Do youself a favour and read the whole thing,you will be seeing the tree and miss he forest once again..

  85. fail
    thablinksta | August 3, 2009

    I think the reason for the downgrade is the 360. I COULD BE WRONG, but lemme tell you what i think.

    360 can't handle the magnitude of games that the ps3 can due to hardware. (mainly the dvd issue) So Square Enix tried to make this game, but now they have to downgrade it because they are discovering that the 360 cannot handle it.

    Now everybody's response to this is gonna be "oh, what about the multiplat games that looked better on the 360 than on the ps3?" Well look at it from a developer's standpoint. You have a more powerful system with a smaller install base (PS3), and a less powerful system with a larger install base (360). It is in the developer's best interest to develop the game on the 360 because it makes the task of porting to something more powerful easier. It's also in their interest due to install base. It would take more work to optimize for a powerful system, and port to a less powerful system. That is why multiplat games look better on the 360...

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    killswitchmad | August 3, 2009

    You people really dont get it......

    THE ORIGINAL IMAGES ARE TARGET FOOTAGE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN-GAME ON EITHER OF THE SYSTEMS!!

    And actually alot of multiplatform games currently run better on a 360 because it generally is the lead platform. Look at CoD 2 for instance it ran silky on a 360 but was very choppy and ran with blurred textures on the PS3, Not because the PS3 is underpowered but because the lead development platform was the 360. The same goes for Ghostbusters and Bioshock.

  87. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    Im glad its coming to the Xbox 360, I have had a FF curse since 7 but maybe it was a sony curse..lets hope, I may get to finish a FF game. I think that the birds face actually looks better in the later rended picture but the guy with the sword looks like it needs work. But lets all remember the games not out yet, so maybe they will continue to improve it.

    Just to reduce the fear that some people have, some games are still being polished weeks before they go gold.

  88. @galvatron
    vx | August 3, 2009

    stopped reading your comment when you mentioned MGR lol, MGR=/=MGS4, MGS4 cant possibly be run on the Xbox1.5 hence it wont be realised on the shitty box, multi are better on xbox lol u smocking hahaha will ps3 exclusives runs better than all multi and xbot exclusives (if any) companied

  89. yeah,keep blaming the 360 for lousy games..
    galvatron | August 3, 2009

    I will be so glad if the 360 version of final fantasy gets , as most of the times on multyplatform titles,better than its ps3 counter part,a thing that could happen in metal gear rising also......i will laugh my a@@ out,just as i did in the ps3 originally oriented and developed ghostbusters,virtua fighter5,unreal tournament 3 ,dmc4 2 name a few...Maybe all of you who argue dont get it quite yet...its in the hands of the developer the outcome,both systems have their pros and cons,and if you give it time,you can see wonders in both worlds..By making a game and releasing its port somewhat next year for another system,the developers have the chance to look what they did wrong and could have been avoided,so they usually make better ports...if they are not lazy(which means they are a bad studio for games to begin wth..),or they dont have the amount of money(significant factor...if a company in any job was paying me a lot more for harder work,it could motivate me to get the best of me)or the time(since not always the publisher,another important factor,has the patience for better results when they just want to through the damn game released b4 the developers gets to see what went wrong and do anything about it.) Just some thoughts,while i'll be playing multyplatform version on the 360 and some good exclusive games on ps3..

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    Tom | August 3, 2009

    Either way there is no point in debating the original shots look way better, the hair, face, and texture detail all look superior. In the old shots the hair looks more natural not showing any "joints" meaning no visible spots where the hair textures were joined to one another. Honestly this is a let down to me as SoulCalibur on Dreamcast has that exact same kind of static looking design. I don't know whats going on here, I just really hope this is not a result of getting the game to run on both platforms. Im no fanboy but that would just suck

  91. Bower of the DVD9
    vx | August 3, 2009

    fucking Xbots they keep defending their heater system where it is clearly the game have been heavily downgraded cuz to fit on 4DVDs, sadly it wont even sale on the shitty box fucking SE

  92. thank you dvd.
    karooo | August 3, 2009

    Fucking Square enix.

  93. To Whinners
    Harkins1721 | August 3, 2009

    You clearly know nothing do you? You are just a little bitchy fanboy that thinks hes the man dont you. The Ps3 does sell and has a great install base. It has over 23 million and its only 8 million behind the 360 COSTIN twice as much as the 360 does. Also the 360 only out sells the Ps3 very little on a weekly basis. Kid you hav no idea what your saying its hilarious! So please know what you say before you post stupid crap like "O its too exspensive!" Haha fanboy!

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    Leo | August 3, 2009

    Oh, and the picture of Lightning: One is from the PRE RENDERIZED CG, the other is from in game engine. Thats the difference. =P

  95. @ Phazon
    SM2 | August 3, 2009

    look at the sword and her arm!
    are you alien?!

  96. Geez
    Leo | August 3, 2009

    I dont believe. You guys are (in majority) stupids. Seriously. FFXIII is looking great, but just in art direction. In graphics terms, FFXIII is just 'good'. This game wasn't downgraded, its just a change in the design. It isnt related in any form to DVD limits. Just think. Man, THINK!

  97. Mr
    orbitpr0 | August 3, 2009

    Im glad its coming to the Xbox 360, I have had a FF curse since 7 but maybe it was a sony curse..lets hope, I may get to finish a FF game. I think that the birds face actually looks better in the later rended picture but the guy with the sword looks like it needs work. But lets all remember the games not out yet, so maybe they will continue to improve it.

    Just to reduce the fear that some people have, some games are still being polished weeks before they go gold.

  98. Wow
    Phazon | August 3, 2009

    Are you guys blind? The game actually looks like a PS3 game now. The first trailer that the first screens were taken from are probably target footage. Square always does this with their games. The first few trailers look better than the end product. Also, it does in no way look anything like a PS2 game. It still looks amazing and if your brand loyalty is blinding you to that fact than I have no pity upon you. Fanboys are the bane of the gaming industry. Crawl into your Sony cave and cry to the heavens, they're not going to hear you over the sounds of accounting and them getting their paychecks off of their loyalty.

    Owing a PS3 and 360 really is the best. I get the best of both worlds and don't have to put up with the faggotry of fan alliances except with you guys. Thanks for becoming /v/, everybody!

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    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    The people who posted these images are fan baiting. As it turns out after some actual research the they have the two trailers that these came from mixed up.

  100. hmmmm
    SM2 | August 3, 2009

    i hope the dowgrade in the 360 version only.

    to be honest, i never play anything great from square enix!

    Viva SquareSoft !!!!!!1!!1!!!
    ;_;

  101. Untitled
    Anonymous | August 3, 2009

    why would they downgrade both versions... theres no reason to change the graphics because of the 360 version. Ever think the graphics team just wanted a different view of the game? plus the game has been delayed many times. EVer think the ps3 is the reason? How many times has a ps3 version of a multiplatform game been a not as good as the 360 counter part...

  102. Whinners
    Ps3 Is worthless | August 3, 2009

    Cry Cry Cry. If PS3 actually sold and had a good install base then they wouldn't need to do this. Instead of blaming the Xbox and Microsoft Blame Sony for making the PS3 way to expensive. Its not SquareEnix fault or Microsoft It only lies on Sony. Too Bad you whiny little PS3 Fanboys can never see that and just choose to blame everyone else than look at the real issue.

  103. Uh huh
    killswitchmad | August 3, 2009

    When will you people realise it has nothing to do with the platform if it did then it would be the 360 version thats downgraded not the PS3 version!

    The consoles both have there pros and cons but when it comes to the number crunching they are practically identical on power.

    All these differences are because the original screens are doctored "Target" screenshots of what Square were looking to come as close as possible to! and instead of moan you should be congratulating them on a fine job! infact this is probably the only game I've seen thats so close to it's "Target" images!

  104. Still waiting more...
    Cloudberry | August 3, 2009

    Vanille's top image have clear colors while the bottom image is more greener & blurred.

    I actually love Lightning's bottom image. The color depths, dark lighting, etc.

    I'm still waiting more of this images before drawing any conclusions.

  105. Untitled
    Constantine | August 3, 2009

    You people are idiots, with your damn fanboyism as always. Sheesh the game is looking great and I like the improvements on the face of Vanille.

  106. Uh huh
    killswitchmad | August 3, 2009

    When will you people realise it has nothing to do with the platform if it did then it would be the 360 version thats downgraded not the PS3 version!

    The consoles both have there pros and cons but when it comes to the number crunching they are practically identical on power.

    All these differences are because the original screens are doctored "Target" screenshots of what Square were looking to come as close as possible to! and instead of moan you should be congratulating them on a fine job! infact this is probably the only game I've seen thats so close to it's "Target" images!

  107. FF13 is downgraded because of crap box 360
    wasim | August 3, 2009

    just because of that DVD player aka xbox 360 almost all multiplat games are downgraded. I am hearing that x360 version will be on 12 DVDS . shame on square for downgrading FF13 for crap box 360

  108. *sigh*
    AeonKnight | August 3, 2009

    Final Fantasy 13 was going to look amazing, but because of the 360 it has been dumb down to PS2 graphics. I hate SquareEnix for what they have done to this game. I'm still going to play it though.

  109. ...
    hellghan666 | August 3, 2009

    itas because of version of 360 is dowgrade the version of ps3 :/

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